By Jon Dougherty
(NationalSentinel) Former NYC mayor and current presidential lawyer Rudy Giuliani responded to recent efforts to discredit POTUS Donald Trump Thursday evening in an interview withÂ Fox News‘ Sean Hannity, saying that there is a lot of information “coming out” about the “Spygate” scandal and who was involved, strongly suggesting that some former Obama-era officials could be in for some legal trouble.
“Sean weâ€™ve known this for a yearâ€¦ You canâ€™t BELIEVE whatâ€™s going to come out. And this is a dramatic revelation now,” Giuliani said, implicating at least one former ranking Justice Department official.
“But Bruce Ohr should have been prosecuted and his wife [Nellie Ohr] for conflicts of interest ten months ago because we had a Justice Department that was completely warped,” the presidential lawyer said.
“The fact is that these are crimes that are shocking,” he continued. “These are crimes that go to the very heart of our republic. These people had a plan to stop the Republican candidate from getting elected and then they executed a plan to remove from office on false evidence, false testimony,” he told Hannity.
“The whole thing was made up from the very beginning and they sold it to 90 percent of our media. Itâ€™s a tragedyâ€¦ The dimensions of it you still donâ€™t realize,” he said.
“Thereâ€™s plenty of evidence of what happened in Ukraine. Plenty of evidence of what happened in UK. In Italy. This was a massive conspiracy,” Giuliani warned.
In recent months there have been a number of revelations regarding the global nature of the scandal many have come to know as “Spygate.”
As early as January 2017, a week before President Trump was inaugurated, a report inÂ Politico that was little-noticed at the time revealed a connection between the Ukrainian government and the campaign of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton:
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clintonâ€™s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
The piece began by claiming that Russia interfered in an attempt to help Trump. ButÂ asÂ The ObserverÂ noted, when all partisanship is removed from the article, there is more to the Ukrainian angle:
Yesterday,Â PoliticoÂ reportedÂ that the Ukrainian Government worked to aidÂ Hillary ClintonÂ during the 2016 presidential elections. The actions taken by government officials included disseminatingÂ â€œdocuments implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clintonâ€™s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers.â€
Those documents implicated Trumpâ€™s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who worked as an adviser for now-ousted Ukrainian President Viktor F. Yanukovych. However, the concerns that the documents raised werenâ€™t in fact over any quasi-Russian ties, though partisan reporting pushed his narrative. Rather, the documents raised the question of whether Manafort declared the income that he had received from the position. The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm co-founded byÂ ClintonÂ Campaign Chair John Podesta,Â also conductedÂ workÂ for Yanukovych. However,Â the Manafort narrative not only paintedÂ Trump as pro-Russian, but also provided the Clinton campaign with a smear campaign while reaffirming its stanceÂ against Russia. It was in Ukraineâ€™s best interest to tilt the election in support of Clinton,Â who strongly advocatedÂ for providing Ukraine with military aid and financial support in order to fight Russian separatists in the country.
In May, President Trump said that he instructed Attorney General William Barr to look into Spygate ties to Ukraine, as well as the UK and Australia, declaring, “Somebody has to get to the bottom of it.”
â€œFor over a year, people have asked me to declassify. What Iâ€™ve done is declassified everything,â€ said Trump, adding â€œHe can look andÂ I hope he looks at the UK and I hope he looks at Australia and I hope he looks at Ukraine,â€ the president said.
â€œItâ€™s the greatest hoax probably in the history of our country andÂ somebody has to get to the bottom of it.Â Weâ€™ll see. For a long period of time, they wanted me to declassify and I did,â€ he added.
One of the most sensitive aspects of Spygate, many analysts believe, is that the Obama administration figures involved in the scandal at the Justice Department, the FBI, and the U.S. intelligence community misused the “Five Eyes” alliance, an intelligence-sharing agreement between the U.S., Canada, the UK, New Zealand, and Australia.
In November,Â The National SentinelÂ reported that British intelligence officials and the UK government were scrambling to convince Trump not to declassify certain documents related to Spygate, likely over fears that British intelligence would be implicated.
As furtherÂ reportedÂ byÂ The Telegraph, MI6 saysÂ any disclosure would â€œundermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.”
Allies of the president pushed back, demanding full transparency because they believe declassification of all documents related to the operation will reveal that Obama politicized the entire U.S. intelligence community, the FBI, and the Justice Department (as well as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court), which would spell big trouble for the key players and Democrats:
The Telegraph has talked to more than a dozen UK and US officials, including in American intelligence, who have revealed details about the row.Â
British spy chiefs have â€œgenuine concernâ€ about sources being exposed if classified parts of the wiretap request were made public, according to figures familiar with discussions.
â€œIt boils down to the exposure of peopleâ€, said one US intelligence official, adding: â€œWe donâ€™t want to reveal sources and methods.â€ US intelligence shares the concerns of the UK.Â
In May,Â The National Sentinel reported that British intelligence briefed President-elect Trump about the “Russia dossier” compiled for the FBI by former UK intelligence official Christopher Steele. Specifically, the report noted that British intelligence officials discounted the dossier’s veracity:
A week before President-elect Donald J. Trump was inaugurated in January 2017, British intelligence officials contacted his incoming national security team, then led by National Security Adviser-select Michael Flynn, that they had â€˜little confidenceâ€™ in the veracity of the infamous â€œdossierâ€ written by former MI6 spy Christopher Steele.
As reported byÂ The Daily Callerâ€™s Chuck Ross in June 2018, former Australian diplomat Alexander Downer spoke in public for the first time about a barroom conversation he had with a minor foreign policy adviser to the campaign â€œthat would serve as a catalyst for the FBIâ€™s collusion investigation.â€
In an interview withÂ The AustralianÂ (paywall) April 28, Downer â€” former high commissioner to the United Kingdom â€” said he tasked another Australian diplomat with contacting the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, for the barroom meeting which took place around May 10, 2016, at Londonâ€™s Kensington Wine Room.
Over drinks, Ross noted, Papadopoulos mentioned that Russia had information on Hillary Clinton that could be damaging to her.
But there was no indication during the short conversation that Trump himself was even aware of that information, Downer told the paper.
â€œBy the way, nothing [Papadopoulos] said in that conversation indicated Trump himself had been conspiring with the Russians to collect information on Hillary Clinton. It was just that this guy, [Papadopoulos], clearly knew that the Russians did have material on Hillary Clinton â€” but whether Trump knew or not?â€ Downer explained.
â€œHe didnâ€™t say Trump knew or that Trump was in any way involved in this. He said it was about Russians and Hillary Clinton; it wasnâ€™t about Trump,â€ Downer toldÂ The Australian.
The Trump adviserâ€™s reference to Clintonâ€™s material was also very vague, Downer indicated.Â
â€œHe didnâ€™t say dirt; he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didnâ€™t say what it was,â€ Downer said.
That encounter would later trigger the spying operation that the FBI called â€œCrossfire Hurricane,â€ a juvenile reference to a Rolling Stones song from the 1960s,Â Jumpinâ€™ Jack Flash.
The Daily CallerÂ noted further:
Downer sent a cable back to Australian government authorities within 48 hours of the Papadopoulos encounter. The information was not provided to the FBI until months later when Joe Hockey, Australiaâ€™s ambassador to the U.S., passed it to American authorities in late July 2016. He was prompted to share the information by WikiLeaksâ€™ release of hacked DNC emails.
â€œCrossfire Hurricaneâ€ was officially opened on July 31, 2016. It has since folded into the investigation being conducted by special counsel Robert Mueller.
â€œDuring that conversation, [Papadopoulos] mentioned the Russians might use material that they have on Hillary Clinton in the lead-up to the election, which may be damaging,â€ Downer toldÂ The Australian.
But how did Papadopoulos, a young campaign operative eager to make his mark, come into the Clinton email information in the first place?
He told the FBI on Jan. 26, 2017, that he had a conversation on April 26, 2016, with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese professor, and it was Mifsud who claimed to have been in contact with Russian agents who said they had â€œdirtâ€ on Clinton that included â€œthousandsâ€ of her supposedly lost emails.
It was a set-up.
Reports in May of this year that were largely ignored by much of the media set off alarm bells for political analysts tracking the Spygate scandal, mostly because they came from such an unexpected place: Italy.
The National Sentinel reported:
In a surprise move earlier this week, Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte fired his countryâ€™s top three intelligence officials, reportedly because they cooperated with the Obama regime in its treasonous â€œSpygateâ€ operation against the 2016 Trump campaign.
While the official reason behind the firings appears to be routine political housekeeping, word is in Italy that the firings are directly tied to the assistance those officials and and their agencies lent to the Spygate operation.
PM @GiuseppeConteIT has suddenly requested resignations from 6 deputy directors of Italian intelligence agencies: DIS, AISI and AISE.
Partito Democratico replies: "it's a regime", but in Rome, everybody knows its' all about SpyGate and Trump sabotage.https://t.co/6M6WrLns2S
— Giulio Occhionero (@g_occhionero) May 16, 2019
The Italian prime minister has suddenly requested resignations from 6 deputy directors of Italian intelligence agencies: DIS, AISI and AISE. This was all after I outed Mifsud in Rome and the president called the Italian prime minister. Italy has flipped and are giving up Brennan.
— George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) May 16, 2019
Bruce Ohr/Nellie Ohr
As many outlets have reported, the Ohrs were heavily involved with Fusion GPS, the political opposition research firm hired by the Democratic National Committee and the 2016 Clinton campaign to commission the Steele dossier — which, subsequent reporting has noted, was compiled using information gathered from Russian sources.
Nellie Ohr actually worked for Fusion GPS, while her husband, from his perch as the then-No. 4 official at the Justice Department, coordinated with her.
In August 2018, writing inÂ The Hill, John SolomonÂ noted:
Hundreds of pages of previously unreported emails and memos provide the clearest evidence yet that a research firm, hired byÂ Hillary Clintonâ€™s campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to find dirt on and defeat Donald Trump, worked early and often with the FBI, a Department of Justice (DOJ) official and the intelligence community during the 2016 presidential election and the early days of Trumpâ€™s presidency.
Fusion GPSâ€™s work and its involvement with several FBI officials have been well reported.
But a close review of these new documents shows just how closely Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, who reported to Obama-era Deputy AGÂ Sally Yates, maintained contact with Fusion â€” and, in particular, its primary source, former British spy Christopher Steele â€” before, during and after the election.
Yates was fired byÂ President TrumpÂ over an unrelated political dispute. Ohr was demoted recently.
Ohrâ€™s own notes, emails and text messages show he communicated extensively with Steele and with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson. Those documents have been turned over in recent weeks to investigative bodies in Congress and the DOJ, but not reviewed outside the investigative ranks until now.
They show Ohr had contact with Steele in the days just before the FBI opened its Trump-Russia probe in summer 2016, and thenÂ engaged Steele as a â€œconfidential human sourceâ€Â (CHS) assisting in that probe.
They also confirm that Ohr laterÂ became a critical conduit of continuing information from SteeleÂ after the FBI ended the Britâ€™s role as an informant.
In anÂ interviewÂ withÂ Fox Newsâ€˜ Hannity, House Freedom Caucus member Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said:Â â€œBruce Ohr is now the key to this.â€
He added: When you read these emails, itâ€™s Glenn, itâ€™s Bruce, itâ€™s Nellie, itâ€™s Chris. Itâ€™s like these were all best buddies. They were like friends. They were all working together on this project of putting this dossier together that has been disproven.â€
It’s not clear from Giuliani’s statements when the Trump administration or the Justice Department plans to act on information regarding Spygate, with its global tentacles. But analysts believe that the White House could time it for some politically advantageous moment in the coming months as the 2020 election cycle heats up and Democrats get closer to choosing their candidate.
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